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Safety Recommendation Details

Safety Recommendation A-84-061
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Synopsis: ON OCTOBER 25, 1983, A FLYING TIGERS, INC. DC 8-63, FLIGHT 2468, LANDED AT CHAMBERS FIELD, NAVAL AIR STATION (NAS), NORFOLK, VIRGINIA. THE AIRPLANE WAS DAMAGED SUBSTANTIALLY WHEN IT SLID OFF THE SIDE OF RUNWAY 10, CROSSED A ROAD, WENT THROUGH A CHAINLINK FENCE, AND CAME TO A HALT IN A SWAMP. HEAVY RAIN HAD FALLEN EARLIER IN THE DAY AND THE RUNWAY WAS WET. A POSTACCIDENT REPORT BY CRASH-FIRE-RESCUE (CFR) PERSONNEL INDICATED THAT THERE WAS STANDING WATER ON THE RUNWAY, 1/2 TO 3/4 INCH DEEP IN PLACES. THE SAFETY BOARD'S INVESTIGATION OF THE ACCIDENT INVOLVING FLIGHT 2468, REVEALED THAT NAS NORFOLK DOES NOT CONDUCT THE AIRPORT CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND REPORTING DESCRIBED IN 14 CFR 139.69.
Recommendation: THE NTSB RECOMMENDS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE: DEVELOP AND INSTITUTE PROCEDURES TO MEET THE ASSESSMENT AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF 14 CFR 139.69 AT MILITARY AIRPORTS FROM WHICH CIVIL AIRCRAFT OPERATE.
Original recommendation transmittal letter: PDF
Overall Status: Closed - Acceptable Action
Mode: Aviation
Location: NORFOLK, VA, United States
Is Reiterated: No
Is Hazmat: No
Is NPRM: No
Accident #: DCA84AA005
Accident Reports: Flying Tigers, Inc., Flight 2468 McDonnell Douglas DC8-63, N797FT
Report #: AAR-84-08
Accident Date: 10/25/1983
Issue Date: 6/15/1984
Date Closed: 9/11/1997
Addressee(s) and Addressee Status: United States Department of Defense (Closed - Acceptable Action)
Keyword(s):

Safety Recommendation History
From: NTSB
To: United States Department of Defense
Date: 9/11/1997
Response: AS THE RESULT OF OUR FOLLOWUP OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHICH NO RESPONSE HAD BEEN RECEIVED FOR MORE THAN 1 YEAR, WE LEARNED THAT THE DOD ORGANIZATION RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RECOMMENDATION NO LONGER EXISTS. cONSEQUENTLY, STAFF MADE DIRECT CONTACTS WITH NAVY AND ARMY OFFICIALS TO DETERMINE IF THE ACTIONS PROMISED EARLIER HAD BEEN COMPLETED. STAFF AT THE NAVAL AIR TRAINING AND OPERATING PROCEDURES STANDARDIZATION PROGRAM CONFIRMED THAT 14 CFR 139.69 AIRFIELD ASSESSMENT AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ARE NOW INCLUDED IN THE NATOPS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL FACILITIES MANUAL, AND IN NAVAIR 00-80T-114. ALSO, THE US ARMY AIRSPACE MANAGER STATED THAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOW INCLUDED IN ARMY REGULATION 95-2. THEREFORE RECOMMENDATION A-84-61 IS CLASSIFIED AS CLOSED--ACCEPTABLE ACTION.

From: NTSB
To: United States Department of Defense
Date: 2/3/1989
Response:

From: NTSB
To: United States Department of Defense
Date: 5/6/1985
Response:

From: United States Department of Defense
To: NTSB
Date: 2/11/1985
Response: DOD LTR: TO ENSURE THE INTENT OF 14 CFR 139.69 IS COMPLIED WITH FULLY AND TO AVOID ANY VARIATION IN INTERPRETATION, NAVY AND ARMY REGULATIONS ARE BEING AMENDED. THE NAVY WILL AMEND ITS OPNAVINST 3721.1 AND ENSURE INCORPORATION OF 14 CFR PROCEDURES INTO AIR STATION AIR OPERATIONS MANUALS. THE ARMY WILL AMEND ARMY REGULATION AR 95-15 AND THE SPECIFIC ASSESSMENT AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE MADE PART OF AIRFIELD OPERATIONS MANUAL FM-1-300. AIR FORCE REGULATION 55-48 FULLY COVERS THE INTENT OF CFR 139.69.

From: NTSB
To: United States Department of Defense
Date: 12/28/1984
Response:

From: United States Department of Defense
To: NTSB
Date: 8/8/1984
Response: DOD LETTER: DOD INSTALLATIONS MEET OR EXCEED REQUIREMENTS OF 14 CFR 139.69. DECIMETERS ARE USED TO ACQUIRE BRAKING ACTION DATA FOR DOD AIRCRAFT. THESE VALUES ARE CONVERTED TO STANDARD BRAKING DESCRIPTIONS FOR NON-DOD AIRCRAFT. JOINT USAF/NASA TESTS HAVE PROVEN RUNWAY CONDITION READING (RCR) MEASUREMENTS ARE INVALID WHEN THE ONLY FORM OF MOISTURE AFFECTING THE RUNWAY CONDITION IS WATER. THEREFORE, READINGS TAKEN DURING SUCH CONDITIONS ARE REPORTED AS WET RUNWAYS.