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Safety Recommendation A-78-027
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Synopsis: THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS INVOLVING COMPLEX FIXED WING, MULTI-ENGINE AIRCRAFT IN AIR TAXI AND CORPORATE/EXECUTIVE OPERATIONS IN WHICH THE ACCIDENT CIRCUMSTANCES REMAIN UNKNOWN. OF THE 194 FATAL ACCIDENTS IN THESE OPERATIONS FROM 1970 TO 1977, CAUSE HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED FOR 34 OF THE ACCIDENTS. IN ADDITION TO THE ACCIDENTS REFLECTED IN THE DATA IN ATTACHMENT 1, THE SAFETY BOARD HAS RECENTLY INVESTIGATED OR IS INESTIGATING FIVE OTHER ACCIDENTS IN THE CORPORATE/EXECUTIVE FLEET ALONE IN WHICH THERE APPEARS TO BE LITTLE HOPE OF DETERMINING DEFINITIVE CAUSE. THESE ACCIDENTS, WHICH HAVE OCCURRED WITHIN THE PAST 18 MONTHS, HAVE RESULTED IN 26 FATALITIES.
Recommendation: DEVELOP, IN COOPERATION WITH INDUSTRY, FLIGHT RECORDER STANDARD (FDR/CVR) FOR COMPLEX AIRCRAFT WHICH ARE PREDICATED UPON INTENDED AIRCRAFT USAGE.
Original recommendation transmittal letter: PDF
Overall Status: Closed - Acceptable Action
Mode: Aviation
Location: Hot Springs, VA, United States
Is Reiterated: Yes
Is Hazmat: No
Is NPRM: No
Accident #: DCA76AZ039
Accident Reports: Johnson and Johnson, Inc., Grumman Gulfstream II, N500J
Report #: AAR-78-04
Accident Date: 9/26/1976
Issue Date: 4/13/1978
Date Closed: 2/18/1986
Addressee(s) and Addressee Status: FAA (Closed - Acceptable Action)
Keyword(s):

Safety Recommendation History
From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 2/18/1986
Response: We have examined aerospace standard (as) 8039, minimum performance standard for general aviation flight recorders. We note that this as specifies minimum performance standards for recording automatically aircraft flight parameters and (or) aural communication between flight crew members, aural warning sounds, and communications to and from aircraftnecessary for flight operations. It is also noted that the intent of this standard is to allow for the use of individual cockpit voice recorder (cvr)or flight data recorder (fdr) equipment or a combination of cvr/fdr. This response satisfies our recommendation which is now classified in a closed--acceptable action status.

From: FAA
To: NTSB
Date: 12/10/1985
Response: "THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS, INC. (SAE), COMMITTEE A-4, HAS PUBLISHED AEROSPACE STANDARD (AS) 8039, MINIMUM PERFORMANCE STANDARD FOR GENERAL AVIATION FLIGHT RECORDERS. THE STANDARD HAS BEEN REFERENCED IN PROPOSED TECHNICAL STANDARD ORDER (TSO) C111, GENERAL AVIATION FLIGHT RECORDERS".

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 12/20/1982
Response: The safety board is pleased to change the status of these recommendations to open-- acceptable action pending completion of the society of automotive engineers aerospace standard as-3089 and the issuance by faa of a new technical standard order for general aviation fdr's and cvr's.

From: FAA
To: NTSB
Date: 10/25/1982
Response: FAA LTR: THE FAA HAS REQUESTED THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS, INC. (SAE), A-4 COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP AN AEROSPACE STANDARD (MINIMUM PERFORMANCE STANDARD) FOR GENERAL AVIATION FLIGHT DATA RECORDER/COCKPIT VOICE RECORDERS FOR MULTIENGINE TURBINE POWERED AIRCRAFT (FIXED AND ROTARY WING). TO DATE, THE A-4 COMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED THE SIXTH DRAFT OF AN AEROSPACE STANDARD (AS-8039) WHICH IS, AT THIS TIME, OUT TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. WHEN THE SAE COMPLETES THIS PROJECT, THE FAA WILL REFERENCE AEROSPACE STANDARD AS-8039 IN NEW TECHNICAL STANDARD ORDERS WHICH WILL BE ISSUED FOR GENERAL AVIATION FDR'S AND CVR'S.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 8/30/1982
Response: In the faa's last response to these safety recommendations, dated november 6, 1980, we were informed that actions were being taken, and that the safety boards would be kept advised. We would appreciate a report on the progress made in these areas in the last 2 years. Since we have not heard from the faa regarding any action on these recommenda- tions, we are now classifying them as open--unacceptable action.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 8/18/1981
Response: From the accident report of the Texasgulf Aviation, Inc. Lockheed Jetstar N520S near Westchester County Airport in White Plains, New York on February 11, 1981. The Board adopted this report on 8/19/1981. As a result of this accident and several others involving general aviation aircraft, the National Transportation Safety Board reiterates the following recommendations made to the Federal Aviation Administration on April 13, 1978: A-78-27, A-78-28, and A-78-29.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 2/24/1981
Response: We reiterated safety recommendations a-78-27 thru -29 because of our concern with the number of accidents involving complex multiengine general aviation aircraft about which the accident circumstances remain unknown. These recommendation dealt with the development and installation of low-cost cockpit voice recorders and flight data recorders for use on complex fixed wing multiengine aircraft. The safety board is pleased to note that the faa is taking action to fulfill these recommendations and will keep us advised of their progress. Safety recommendations a-78-27 thru -29 are now classified in an open--acceptable action status.

From: FAA
To: NTSB
Date: 11/6/1980
Response: FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION LTR: WE RECENTLY UPDATED THE STATUS OF THIS SAFETY RECOMMENDATION IN OUR LETTER OF JULY 29, 1980.

From: FAA
To: NTSB
Date: 7/29/1980
Response: FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION LTR IN RESPONSE TO NTSB 5/1/80 LTR: FAA HAS DEVELOPED A PROPOSED DRAFT STANDARD FOR A COMPOSITE CVR/FDR. A NEW PUBLIC PROCEDURE TO EXPEDITE THE ISSUANCE OF STANDARDS FOR SPECIFIED MATERIALS, PARTS, PROCESSES, AND APPLIANCES USED ON CIVIL AIRCRAFT WAS ISSUED BY FAA ON JUNE 2, 1980, WITH SEPTEMBER 9, 1980, AS ITS EFFECTIVE DATE. FAA WILL PUBLISH ITS PROPOSED STANDARD FOR A COMPOSITE CVR/FDR UNDER THIS NEW PROCEDURE.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 7/22/1980
Response: From the special study of commuter airline safety from 1970-1979. The Board published this study on 7/22/1980. Based on the findings of this study, the Safety Board reiterates the following safety recommendations which were previously issued to the Federal Aviation Administration: A-79-80, A-79-81, A-78-27, A-78-28, and A-78-29.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 5/28/1980
Response: From the accident report of Comair, Inc. Piper PA-31, N6642L in Covington, Kentucky on October 8, 1979. The Board adopted this report on 5/28/1980. As a result of this investigation, the Safety Board reiterates the following recommendations: A-79-80, A-78-27, and A-78-28.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 5/1/1980
Response: Although staff sources have advised us of many actions being taken, progress towards resolution of these recommendations remains un- clear. The downeast airlines accident reemphasizes the need for cvr and fdr as an invaluable tool in aircraft accident investigation. In order to evaluate the progress of these recommendations and to update the public docket, we request a written response describing actions taken by the faa to resolve them.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 12/13/1979
Response: From the accident report of Inlet Marine, Inc. gates Learjet N77RS Century III, model 25C at Anchorage International Airport in Anchorage, Alaska on December 4, 1978. The Board adopted this report on 12/13/1979. As a result of this accident and several others involving general aviation aircraft, the National Transportation Safety Board reiterates the following recommendations to the Federal Aviation Administration: A-78-27, A-78-28, and A-78-29.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 10/2/1979
Response: Recommendation a-78-27 and 28 are being held in an open-- unacceptable action status until the faa takes some positive action toward their resolution. Recommendation a- 78-29 is being held in an open-acceptable action status because we understand that regulatory action has been initiated. Since the safety board considers cvr's and fdr's to beinvaluable tools in accident investigation, we would appreciate receiving an updated status report on all three recommendations.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 9/20/1979
Response: From the accident report of Champion Home Builders Company Gates Learjet 25B, N999HG in Sanford, North Carolina on September 8, 1977. The Board adopted this report on 9/20/1979. As a result of this accident and several others involving corporate jet aircraft, the National Transportation Safety Board reiterates the following recommendations to the Federal Aviation Administration: A-78-027, A-78-028, and A-78-029.

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 10/30/1978
Response:

From: FAA
To: NTSB
Date: 9/11/1978
Response: FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION LTR IN RESPONSE TO NTSB 8/10/78 LTR: FAA REGULATORY PROPOSALS ARE NOW SUBJECT TO THE CRITERIA CONTAINED IN EXECUTIVE ORDER 12044 AND THE PROPOSED DOT REGULATORY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THE RESULTS OF THE RECORDER RESEARCH PROJECTS PRESENTLY BEING UNDERTAKEN BY NASA AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES SHOULD BE USEFUL IN HELPING THE FAA ACCOMPLISH ITS REGULATORY GOALS IN DEVELOPING CRASH RECORDER REQUIREMENTS. IN THIS RESPECT, THE FAA IS NOW IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING FINAL ACTION ON MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO 14 CFR 135 WHICH, IF ADOPTED AS ANTICIPATED, WILL REQUIRE THAT COCKPIT VOICE RECORDERS BE INSTALLED ON TURBOJET AIRPLANES WITH 10 OR MORE PASSENGER SEATS. AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS SUFFICIENT RESEARCH DATA AVAILABLE TO JUSTIFY CHANGING THE REGULATORY AGENDA. (NTSB FOLLOWUP LETTERS DATED 10/2/79 AND 5/1/80).

From: NTSB
To: FAA
Date: 8/10/1978
Response: The faa to accelerate the anprm action described in faa ltr dtd 6/30/78 re: need for development & installation of cvr and fdr in complex g.A. And air taxi/commuter aircraft. Ai-4 recommendation to ai-1 on 7/20/78 was that it should be kept open-- unacceptable action based on this evaluation: we have our misgivings witha rulemaking approach without first proceeding with a research and development project based on an understanding of concepts, hardware, and cost. Such information would be a prerequisite to subsequent anprm evaluation. The army and nasa have r & d programs in this area which the faa can participate in or utilize. Our followup letter to the faa explains this in more detail. Ai-1 approved rec. To board 8-3/78.

From: FAA
To: NTSB
Date: 6/30/1978
Response: FAA LTR: WE SHALL ESTABLISH A REGULATORY PROJECT TO DEVELOP AN ADVANCE NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULE MAKING FOR IDENTIFICATION OF APPROPRIATE STANDARDS TO BE APPLIED TO CERTAIN GENERAL AVIATION AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS. IN VIEW OF THE WIDE RANGE OF USE OF THE AIRCRAFT INVOLVED AND THE SEVERAL KINDS OF RECORDERS VIEWED AS FEASIBLE BY THE NTSB, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE MOST PRACTICAL COURSE OF ACTION.