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SAE Vehicle Recorder Topical Technical (TOPTEC) Symposium

Aviation Workshop Notes

The Aviation Workshop was held on the afternoon of June 5th, 2003 as the final activity of the SAE Vehicle Recorder TOPTEC Symposium. There were two presentations followed by a discussion period which was open to any aviation recorder-related issues/ideas. There were approximately 33 people who attended the session representing all aspects of aviation including general aviation, air carriers, aircraft/recorder/component manufacturers, military, government, investigative, and pilot union's. The session commenced at 1330.

The first presentation, "Installation of Combined Voice and Flight Data Recorder", was given by Robert Swanson of FedEx Express. Mr. Swanson explained why FedEx Express chose to replace the traditional FDR/CVR configuration on their aircraft with a redundant CVFDR/FDR configuration. He also detailed some of the benefits resulting from the installation and shared the lessons learned from the experience. The presentation can be found in the proceedings.

The following were some questions from the attendees that arose from the presentation.

What was the start logic used for the FDR portion of the CVFDR?

What MEL relief was received as a result of installing the CVFDR?

Dennis Grossi, National Resource Specialist Flight Recorders, NTSB, gave the second presentation, "Quality of Flight Recorder Data - Filtered/Under Sampled Data and Post Processing Errors/Limitations". The talk focused on some of the effects of poor data quality and regulatory non-compliance on data collection and how accident investigations are hindered. The importance of valid post-processing of data was also stressed. Mr. Grossi's presentation can be found in the proceedings.

Some topics that arose from the discussion:

Ground Readout Equipment Certification

QAR Data stream needs to be in protected memory

Building data-map into recorder

Data under sampling, latency, and filtering

AEEC FDR Working Group

RTCA Future Flight Data Collection Committee results
The RTCA FFDCC committee was generated by Chairman Hall and Administrator Garvey out of the 1999 recorder symposium. The committee met and created a report with recommendations.

The TOPTEC Aviation Workshop provided an opportunity for individuals to come together and discuss some of the current issues in the field of aviation recorders. This paper has attempted to document some of the ideas and concerns discussed during that meeting.

 

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